Zell and Dick
Were they really as harmful to the GOP cause (especially Zell) as many commentors are saying today? Because, to me, Republicans always sound like that, and always make me as disturbed and frightened as those two did. Kevin Drum thinks that if more of the general voting public had seen last night's display, that Kerry would have the election won. I tend to think the opposite. The partisan crowd was cheering, but so was the "panel" of "undecided voters" MSNBC had convened.

I'm so confused as to when the unattentive wing of the American people finally decides to be turned off by nastiness. I'm afraid this glee over Zell's screed is premature and biased.

Did you see the speech? What did you think?